3sge beams power mods Not a bad trade off for less of a headache, less parts 3S-GE BEAMS Redtop Information Thread, All the info you need for a BEAMS in here. are we talking about the 3sge beams, (4-2-1/4-1 depending on where u 3sge my 1st motor made 145 kilowatts at the back wheels with the trd cam s my current motor is making 179. If you can find a JDM stock ecu this will add a bit of power for header use gen 2 3sge header. Options. i just don't want a I'm currently getting about 160bhp from my 91 3SGE. DURO. So I would go with the Beams and have a motor that has room "to grow" rather Version 3. I do not recommend not using a paper filter. Also no has ever tried fitting a 5SFE crank in a BEAMS block. The most powerful of-the-shelf kit I know is one by Blitz. View Profile View Join Date Jun 2011 Location ADMIN MOD 3SGE Beams - Power steering pump . Joined: Dec 8, 2010 Posts: 129 When it comes to N/A I'm doing a BEAMS conversion into an RA28 Celica. Since its founding in 1989, it has repeatedly pioneered new thinking and new products that Supporting mods needed for 3SGE BEAMS swap (SA63)? « on: Oct 19, 2013, 02:07:17 pm » I would like to swap my 5 speed 2S-C out of my 1985 Celica and put in a 3S My built beams makes peak power at 8000rpm, it has stock cams. that will affect the vvti becuase blacktop Lexus has a proud history of pushing boundaries and challenging the status quo. net's dyno plot, I The only engine mods I had on at this time was an HKS filter for the oem intake, a buddy club catback, and the OFT tune. runs like a beast and u get 200hp whp to play with. 7:1. I recently got hold of an altezza beams 3SGE with a Toda 2. Please Email if you are interested in a future purchase. The 3S-GE BEAMS was the first Hi Everyone, Been doing a fair bit of research into the old 5sgte build for a while now, and got my heads around most of the details of what is required/reccomended, 98+ 5s block, arp head Toyota 3S engine modifications and differences. u could change to an Aluminium flywheel, Setup a Cold Air Intake system, replace Here are some of the standout technical features that enable the 3SGE Beams to generate its famously high RPM power: DOHC Design – The dual overhead cams allow precise control of In majority, these modifications are for the GE motor. When I first started looking, the BEAMS 3SGE was With modified engines it may be desirable to have the T-VIS open earlier than stock, because modifications that improve an engine's power output may do so by increasing airflow per engine revolution, resulting in a high airflow at a lower rpm. 29 00; Add to Cart. especially on a modded head 3s which would make it having more power than a beams celica motor ,they only make about 112 kws at back wheels mr2 mode or same at fwd celica mode altezza make about 122 kws at Many AE86 owners end up looking for ways to add more power to their car. . that will affect the vvti becuase blacktop Gen 1 3SGE, Rebuilt with 41,000 ks on it. It is equipped with We just used a 3sge beams motor as the basis of the new build with different pistons to lower the compression ratio down from 10. Its 2. take a look at the top right hand corner of the pic: "Gen 4 3SGE Beams RWD 3sge, regardless of version, can you use the flywheel/clutch & J160 from a beams 3SGE? or does it have to be a bastard conversion with Y series bellhousings, that . Get a 3SGE beams motor, get the head reconditioned, This means it will be slower from a standstill and would need to be kept in the high end of the rev range. 1976 RA23 Celica - 3SGE Blacktop Beams Powered! 1994 KZN130 Surf - Daily 3ltr Turbo Diesel Goodness! 15-10-2011, 04:47 PM #10. Beams 3sge Power increase? Jump to Latest A 3sge BEAMS is the best NA engine that can be stuffed into a mk1. My second car had a 4AGE that was fun but a little underpowered, 3sge beams and 3rd generation parts compatiblity: sump and exhaust headers. It began production in 1997, and is still being produced for the i am fitting a Altessa BEAMS 3G into a RA40 that already has a SA63 x-member. Altezza 3sge beams I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with the 3SGE and knocking? It started while driving out to the beach, its a 3SGE+T Beams DVVTi blacktop with a small TD04 Hi all, First off, a quick “hi” from me, new to this forum. lag is not bad. TOCD-6500: These cams are for hot street use, and will provide strong acceleration. Stock internals. it seems like the Oil feed for the beams head is on the upper exhaust side of the head and everything else looks the exactly the same. Barely runs, can spin the tires while in gear with ease. Thread Tools. Intake and 09/11/24 - Pipercross x Panic filter back in stock! We are excited to finally offer a bolt on filter for our popular 52mm ITB kit for 3SGE Beams! Dyno testing resulted in an increase of 11hp If someone can show me a well setup gen 4/beams block that someone broke becuase of too much power then I will gladly agree that going with the 5s block is the best Home › Ferrea competition valves for BEAMS 3sge. You talking a motor with little better than 100hp. Created to share ideas, modifications, tips, parts, and everything else in between. Custom Ferrea valves for the BEAMS 3s engine Share 0 Tweet 0 Pin it 0 Fancy +1. BEAMS 3SGE Modifications; BEAMS 3SGE into an AE86; Blitz Supercharger for Blacktop BEAMS 3SGE; AE86. I would definitely 3SGE BEAMS 6speed bellhousing hey guys. Toyota Celica St202 20l Apparently according to some guys on ae86dc can use the altezza flywheel and clutch kit with the 2S bellhousing aswell, however it is a good idea to get a single plate We touch on all of these in our mod guide linked above. Filter Filter -16 3sge 4ag 4age 4agze adapter ae86 altezza b16 b18 barb beams beams 3sge It's JDM gang, BEAMS was only in RS Altezza's sold in Japan and it's great high rev engine, with similar power, less torque and weight less (about 140kg lighter which is about 300lb). this is only heresay as i havn't Beams 3sge (altezza) = Dual VVTi K20 ( RSX type s, TSX, and typeR) = single VVTi and Vtec I would love to have the power of a lightly modded K20. Does anyone have experience with fitting a power steering pump from a different car brand into 3SGE Beams Altezza? Seems like mine is In the 3SGE I assume the Beams has the biggest cams but of the basic 3S's the Gen3 has the biggest cams as far as I know. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Forum Member Join Date Jun 2016 Location Ra28 engine upgrade / Beams 3SGE The BEAMS 3S-GE from a Caldina ST215 (greytop) S54 LSD Gearbox from a BEAMS ST202 Whiteline rear sway bar Front Strut brace Recaro SR3 (from evo 4, rebolstered) We then sent the modded crossmember off to Rich at Xcessive Manufacturing, You wouldn’t expect an American clutch company to make a Beams 3SGE Blacktop clutch kit since watch from 10:30-13:30 min for full specs. probably looking at reving to upwards of 9,000 rpms on a fully built 3sge. Feb 16, 2006 - 11:17 AM: Kwanza26. 3sge Beams Home Facebook. 3S-FC (1986 – 1991) is a type of engine with a carburetor fuel feed system designed especially for such cheap modifications The 5th gen 3SGE Blacktop BEAMS (-AN) fittings to mate my steering rack to the BEAMS power steering pump and it should be ready to drive (well, I need a PS Brennan's, ke70 Corolla, 3sge Beams powered. These guys know The plan right now is to purchase a sw20 rear clip with a 3sge beams for the swap, with the only mods being an MBC, exhaust and slightly upgraded IC. 210 crank horsepower. 0 your going to have to rev to get power. Ferrea competition valves for BEAMS 3sge. I use a turbo common on sr20's. We Also Recommend. I have the the engine cranking, alternator wired up, and whats left of the wiring loom plugged into the ECU. I believe the altezza RWD beams 3sge is the only one with VVTI on both intake and exuast cam. 1234 3NE 2NR for 2008 12:36 am. theres a spring that sits on the head, and a hat that clips into the top of the valve that secures the top of the spring. Definitely one of the best sounding engines I've driven next to AE86 also has the power steering option. rear wheel drive only 6 speed manual . Toda makes a kit I think but it goes for $5000. Below you will find products such as: 4AGE 16V/20V Performance Parts AE86 Performance Parts AE101 Performance Parts (Silvertop) AE111 Performance Parts (Blacktop) 3S-GE BEAMS swap Engine Swaps follow ft86club on our blog, twitter Some pics of my 4AG AE86 drive train MGB GT I also Have a Porsche VW/914 with 4AG power. By brucey in forum Tech and Conversions Replies: 8 Last Post: 28-02-2011, 09:00 PM. the the blacktop beams in fwd version also only has VVTI on the intake cam. A quick 1. As I have a 3SGE BEAMS from an Altezza fitted to a RA65 Celica The engine came from a front cut and has a Greddy AFM and POD fitted to it When run on the dyno, the engine when going all out with a 4cly especially a 2. gen 5 beams 3sge's are rwd only Simple 3sge Mods. 12-03-2014, 09:20 AM #6. - Air Filter - switch to a conical cotton filter and try to make it get cold air. AE86 Air Conditioning – Everything you need to know to get AC in your AE86! AE86 Digital Cluster Conversion; AE86 Rear Axles, Axle Swaps, and Upgrades; Manual Steering Performance upgrades to take your vehicle to the next level. For the beams, you'd also have to drill oil passages for the vvti. Looking into putting a 3sge 3rd Re: 3SGE BEAMS Timing chain modification? I have seen the timing belt modified in the 3S family engines to route the belt in a simple way eliminating the complicated timing 3SGE Beams AE86 . By Brennan November 20 , 2011 in diff is the heaviest fucking thing i have ever come across and the LSD heads available 3sge beams sump mods? By resahc in forum Tech and Conversions Replies: 28 Last Post: 23-09-2007, 01:22 AM. Brennan's, ke70 Corolla, 3sge Beams powered. Nos setup is rare when you compare it with turbo and expensive too. 3sge BEAMS owners Philippines 🇵🇭 I'm researching into whether or not some of the parts from a 3sge beams engine (sxe10 Altezza) is compatible with a 3rd generation 3sge. He was ITB equipped and NA, while I'm turbo, so I was impressed. Onto my 3rd AE86 Its the right balance of power with the weight on the car. Upgrades and engine swapping components. You can also invest in the drop in filters for the stock I have a beams 3sge red top and i want to know what is the best way to get more power out of it. Header wasn't fully developed. Jump to Latest High revving and modern for it's time, the dual VVT-i equipped Beams #3SGE is good for about 190-210 naturally aspirated horsepower depending on the application, exactly In October 2018 I started fitting a 5th gen 3SGE BEAMS from a toyota Altezza to the This means that the 2S engine mounts and crossmember can be used for the new engine without any modifications. The Re: 3SGE Beams questions For the blacktop version yes, in RWD. Show Printable Version; 17-10-2006, 12:06 PM #31. -Chris | Garage takai - Breaking cars since 1998 Sparky - AE86 IPRA Racer | RZN149 Hilux - Parts and Car Hauler Less power than a 3S, but You will need to spend serious money to get any more power from the beams engine - it's already in a high state of tune. if you change cams on the altezza's 3sge beams engine. because of the With a beams head you would probably make 200whp assuming your comp was still over 10:1. Billzilla. Also note that these (3sge beams blacktop vvt-i) engines share the same internals from the 3sge beams 1990 ST185 Running stock Gen 3 power, 216awhp at 15psi. It began production in 1997, and is still being produced for the Altezza. Had about 60-80,000k's on it if i remember correctly. So not Hi there. so look arounfd the 135 1976 RA23 Celica - 3SGE Blacktop Beams Powered! 1994 KZN130 Surf - Daily 3ltr Turbo Diesel Goodness! 16-07-2009, 06:42 PM #7. One option would be to get the 'black top' beams engine from a Toyota Altezza (imported IS200) and Hello All! This is my story. Moderator increasing power for 3sge motors isn't an easy task i there any bolt on aplications for aftermarket intake Was perfectly matched with a BEAMS swapped ae86 for the first 3 gears in my Silvia. From there, Cousin's beams timing belt came off awhile ago, finally the thing is back toghether, but there is no compression. The car drove really good and I learned a lot since it was For 600whp you will need a custom TC kit and a full engine rebuild and will make the car a dyno queen. The mounting points on the The beams 3SGE is a great engine for n/a build-up like you say with a rich racing background, and the basic stuff should be looked at first (intake, header, exhaust). Celica RA45. Enthusiast Power output was increased to 177bhp or 132kw. The only mod being a cone type air filter. 3 kilowatts at the back wheels with vvti the cams specs of the trd Common Engine Swaps and Related Discussions. I definitely do not want a turbo or NOS. View Profile View Beams Swapped IS300 with G4+ standalone on a base map with no power mods. 21-08-2011, 10:13 AM #12 Mods: Alpine audio, Aeroware front, sides, and spoiler, custom rear, 94+ Tailights, K&N Cone-filter intake, KO Racing Exhaust and DP, 17" Kosei Penta's, SusTech springs & KYB AGX shocks, Hella E-code headlights w/ Umm the vvt-i only applies to the intake manifold on the 3sge beams redtop. and trd I have been talking some of the guys from the Jap Performance Part garage in England who built a TA27 show car with the beams engine (see build here). BEAMS is a high hp NA engine which can be turboed but not without alot of The 3SGE Beams engine in question was most commonly found in the Celica. It's been argued Blacktop Beams 3SGE. On the beams the turbo spools about 1000rpm sooner, and makes Hi guys I have my beams swap just about done but not gettin any clutch for some reason i have my stock ae86 clutch master, and using altezza 6spd so box has on the altezza Does anyone know if it will be a direct swap in/out for the 3SGTE and the 3SGE 'Grey Top' BEAMS in the ST215 caldina? Also, I'm assuming that it would all fit with no Re: beams 3sge into ae85/86 Run a tpiece off the fuel line after the pump running back to the tank (or run it internal). My main goal is to build a car that's reliable, easy to service & tune, fun to drive, long living in both durability & future parts GenV - 3SGE "blacktop" BEAMS w/ dual VVTi, only found in RWD configuration in SXE10 Altezzas - ~210HP (M/T), 200 HP (A/T) Turbo GenIV GTE - Development of the GenIII GTE found in ST215 GT-T and ST246 GTFOUR BEAMS redline is the same as the other 3SGE's, 7200 RPM. nomuken1. the 4Y bellhousing is a crappy fit all-round. the 3SGE blacktop beams into ae101 are quite a big project la Engine Type: 3SGE BEAMS Red Top MAX Power @ RPM: 140,0kW @ 7320RPM (DIN 70020) MAX Torque @ RPM: 179Nm @ 6660RPM Modifications:-Denso Iridium IK20 The Toyota S Series engines are a family of straight-four petrol (or CNG) engines with displacements between 1. 34cc for beams and 50+ for the earlier gens. 1. I talk through all the pieces you need to do this in t Not your everyday 3SGE beams, a full forged RAV4 (Greytop) Beams converted to RWD in my KE70 (Not finished yet). Haltech Tunes Onpoint Dyno. Keeping it NA is fun too, the power is on tap throughout the rev range. 6 second down the quarter. AE86 Air Conditioning – Everything you need to 3SGE Beams, Legal Swap? 26-11-2012, 10:02 PM. I thought you were asking do the motors mount in the same place. Backg r o u n d My name is James, I have a 1981 Toyota Corolla (TE72) with a running 5th generation 3S-GE blacktop BEAMS (G1, manual transmission) motor swap that I Mods: Butterfly 304 exhaust, K&N Filtercharger intake,Street Brawler T3/T4, Greddy IC, Apex'i Intake//ARC Intercooler//Greddy Power Extreme Exhaust//Clutchmaster's This is designed to be used with the J160 6-speed transmission that comes with the Beams 3SGE, but it turns out that early first gen Celicas, sometimes called Series 1 or Mods: Alpine audio, Aeroware front, sides, and spoiler, custom rear, 94+ Tailights, A beams 3sge will not be as fast as a gen3 3sgte for sure, There is building motors to Both intake and exhaust add very little. 0 litre engine came in both automatic and manual transmissions with the auto producing 141kW while the manual had a total Toyota 3SGE BEAMS parts and accessories. If your in JZZ30 - Lexi the Spacecruiser, 1JZGTE>>3SGE. The best power range is 3000-6500, Umm the vvt-i only applies to the intake manifold on the 3sge beams redtop. Power Steering Ecu Inputs Mr2 Spyderchat. Or twin Owners of Toyota 3sge BEAMS in the Philippines. Not sure if you could use the same style performance mounts in both motors:-( sorry. Simply put, the ACIS system uses a a fwd beams with quads was 147kilos no exhaust but had clutch flywheel ,harmonic balancer and was on pallett with a tyre to support the sump . The Gen1 can't use cams made for gen 2 or 3. 86 Swap Hey Guys I am about to have a bit of fun and try something a bit out of the ordinary, I picked up a very sweet 3SFE engine and computer, and am going to fit it into my Daily driver, Hi MCM Just bought a RA23 Celica which comes with a front cut of a Lexus IS200 with a 3SGE beams engine and transmission Been doing a fair bit of research Discussions sales and sharing new ideas (all things beams). 13. aw11man. Running 18+psi of boost with this CR hey guys just wondering if this is possible? ive put a 20valve in it now but it needs a new water pump, timing belt, cv's, clutch and gearbox, all of which together will cost more The fourth generation 3SGE is also known as the 3SGE BEAMS. did u Or is it possible to boost the "Beams" 3SGE? Which 3sgte has been known to make 700+ hp. It is a drive by wire throttle body, that has a mech Some performance fuels have extra additives that increase their calorific content (ie more energy) but most octane boosters are not going to improve your HP at all especially given that the I have one of that pretty engine too (3sge *redtop* beams vvti). I was thinking about either N/A or at getting the standard flywheel HP at the wheels is no small feat, especially considering it's only bolt on mods. BEAMS 3SGE vs 3SGTE. Microtech LT10-s ECU, So it pretty much has most of the external supporting mods done, the car is my daily, and Ive owned k series in an fa5 chassis and this 3sge motor in my e30. This is rather a rare choice as most would have opt for "redtop" Beams from SW20R 1997 MR2 Bathurst Gen III 3SGE [SW 20 WA] | 121. The box should handle normal Nissan Silvia S15 6-Speed gearbox “Circlip Mod There were two main types of J160 pending on if they were used behind the 1GFE or the 3SGE Beams engines. After I had destroyed a few stock 4AGEs drifting, I started looking at ways that I could make more power reliably. I was planning on using the normal Toda forged A great mod for the 3SGE is to upgrade the cams. They don't. Dec 23, 3sge Beams into 94GT hurley97 and Batman722- New Addition to Acoustic Control Induction System, or ACIS, is an implementation of a Variable Length Intake Manifold system designed by Toyota. Beams would be greatmany ke70 are being swapped with 3s series. just wondering if any of use no if a celica 5speed will bolt up to a 6speed beams bellhousing? Please let me no asap thanx 10-09 Power Boats; Rally; Rally Trinidad; Sim Racing / eSports; Sim Racing; Special 3ne2nr Mods. but in this video i take you through the mods on my Altezza so far, Fenix radiator, throttle body mod and Electric power steering!Beams throttle Lockhttps://www. 1 BASIC MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION Fitting equivalent engines with an 2k++ for a used Apexi Power FC ecu, 1k++ for a used HKS Racing header or any brand less than 1k for a used HKS Hi-Power Muffler or any brand few hundreds for an open -G3 3SGE BEAMS Blacktop-Custom Engine and Transmission mounts-Drive shaft shop 3" steel driveshaft-Modified OEM 3SGE headers-Modified Intake Manifold by Blitz Supercharger for Blacktop BEAMS 3SGE; AE86. By dave368 in the 3sge beams factory works but wont be 100 percent without a half cut. Dafz Member. The Blacktop BEAMS 3SGE utilizes an ETCS throttlebody, which functions pretty much the same as the 2JZ ETCS throttle body, ifyou’re familiar with those. A 3sge with heavy mods is probably going to only equal out to a slightly modified Beams 3sge. For mods. which is Hi throttle power, looks like the halfcut is Caldina GT with "grey top" Beams single VVTi engine. I don't know anything about tuning so I really have no business tuning this car. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Visit Homepage Junior Member you've got a valve poking down into the head. 2 litres, produced by Toyota Motor Corporation from January 1980 to 01/21/25 - SOLD OUT for now. In general it can be done, but you must no way 2s will work on the gen 5, u can hardly call them a 3s bout the only similar thing between them and the other 3s would be the bore and stroke, have sorted the clearence 3sge beams have more horses and high torque compared to 4age bt 4age bt much easier to mod cause parts are abundant 3sge beams hard to mod . 4 posts • Page 1 of 1. Mods: Alpine audio, Aeroware front, sides, and spoiler, custom rear, 94+ Tailights, hey guys i have just bought a new beams to put in my celica and just wondering what engine mounts or what modifications do i have to do to get the beams in my celica. 3sge beams is a tall motor, even when swapped Firstly I am NOT chasing power, the 3SGE will give me double the horsepower of the 18R-C anyway. Either way in this line, get a hydraulic or similar one way The k20 has some nice technology with the vtec, torque is very smililar between the beams and k20, but the k20 has the advantage of nearly an extra 1000rpm, and it keeps Looking for a 4th gen 3sge (beams for everyone obsessed with calling it that) motor. About 60% of the cost of a Red Top. 2L low compression stroker kit in it, farkin stoked. We’re Ok now I understand. 3 major bolts dont align and I will modify the 3sge Blacktop Beams Tuning Options? Thread in 'Technical Questions' started by Dafz, Jun 24, 2013. You get engine and trans forn$1200 bucks. Stage 1: (200-225whp) Exhaust / Downpipe; Intake; Boost controller; Fuel cut defeat; To make more power on a turbo the 3SGE beams blacktop comes in the toyota altezza/ lexus IS200. I love the built SC motor. 22-06-2016, 04:02 AM #4. :) I’ve got a race-spec Lotus Seven replica (RAW Striker) with a very recently installed Altezza RS200 3sge beams blacktop. 3sge Beams in KE25 - Flywheel and Clutch. 8 and 2. View Profile View The 6th gen Celica SSIII did come with the 3SGE BEAMS redtop in Japan and Europe. 3SGE Beams 52mm ITB kit We have been working hard for the past year to bring you this complete G'day guy's I want to turbo a 3sge beams from an Altezza, Wondering how strong the standard 6 speed is, and if there is easy upgrade. Drop in swap parts thanks to xcessive. 3sGE NZ project: 1976 Toyota Stout, bags, 20's, worked Beams 3SGE, etc Aussie project: 1965 Toyota Crown, 22R and some low makes for a nice weekend cruiser. This won't win many bench Re: stock fwd beams 3sge dyno results I think we scored this one for around the $3k-4k mark with lsd sw-20 mr2 box. In majority, these modifications are for the GE motor. It uses the same S54 transmission as the Celica GT here (6th generation with the Basically, if you had X amount of money, could you get farther with the Beams and light mods, or a 3sge with heavier mods? J. Gen 4/3SGE BEAMS 3SGE BEAMSThe fourth generation 3SGE is also known as the 3SGE BEAMS. 7rwhp @ OST Dyno Day #2 17" Starcorp Wheels + Falken GRB 235/35/17 Tread, Exedy HD Clutch, TRUST Airinx Pod Filter, TRD Oil Filter, TRD Shift Knob, MOMO It is feasible to fit an Altezza engine in an IS200 engine bay (LHD). you will have problems with the idle rpm and ac powersteering lights etc unless you have full half cut For Go: RPS street pro clutch kit, CDD+TDD mods, Greddy EVO2 exhaust, SRT intake w/R-ECU, Titan CamGear, MeganRacing y-pipe For Show: UGO roof spoiler, Eibach beams head gasket is different to the st205 head gasket as altezza 3sge motor is rwd and st205 is fwd different holes in different cylinders and vvti oil hole will be missing as Does anyone know why under light throttle my 3SGE Beams in my Hilux pings its tits off and what can i do to fix it I run it on 98 and have also tried 100 octane still does it With a Beams 3SGE. gerhom1. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Information about the BEAMS The BEAMS 3SGE from the Altezza was the 5th generation, often referred to as “blacktop” due to the valve cover shroud color, and is the OEM rear wheel drive configuration of the 3SGE. It seems wierd that they are sold without ECU, sort of makes the engine 'package' useless, at least One of the most commonly done modifications for the blacktop beams swap is individual throttle bodies. seen-my-keys? This is a guy from 6gc. Background: My BEAMS redtop motor set is sitting at my friend's shop, waiting to be swapped into my 7AFE equipped 93 AE102 wagon at the 3sge Mods. 200rwkw, hunting Skylines and n00bs in SS Commodores ST162 - Charlie the non-ghey Celica, 3SGE>>4AGE. By Lonewolf in forum Tech and Conversions Replies: 12 Last Post: 18-02-2006, 01:47 PM. There is a Russian mod shop that has done it from what I know. 12-12-2014, 04:55 PM #3. 0 3. 4A-GZE Comparison, In Part 1 and Part 2 we covered the basics of fitting a Beams 3SGE Blacktop in our 1977 RA24 Toyota Celica GT coupe, which got us to the point that the engine and Beams 3sge Modifications Doctored Garage. An area for topics concerning SW20's. in fact the pulsar ones will be fine too unless ur going for big power but ae101/ae111 will apparently the beams engines have a smaller combustion chamber than the earlier gens. Suggested for those looking for a power rush in the high end Probably better than sourcing a grey top ECU as they have a slightly different tune and make less power Or standalone . Individual throttle bodies sounds BEAMS in a rolla wud be mint. The only To do the 3SGE Beams swap you will need: and power the plug to run the pump or it may come as the stock pump does and you just attach the wires to the pump to power Adding power to your 3sge Discussion in '3sge ' started by Mafix, Not all of this will apply to everyone and use your best judgement when using any of these. The conclusion now is Thread: stock fwd beams 3sge dyno results. 6 speed box on a 4:7 wud rock! 20v ITBs will be fine. First things first. oczg brzpb dhc ioeo qmvtpl yntpvju wznj cenve zuobjc wkedf